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19th Jun 2025

122 | The Truth About Building a Coaching Business That Lasts

What does it really take to build a coaching business that not only starts but lasts? Today, Jo Lott shares the raw, real, and sometimes uncomfortable truth about sustainable success. From empty webinars to hard decisions, Jo reveals the truth most people don’t talk about: success in coaching isn’t about flashy content or always knowing what you’re doing, it’s about showing up, again and again.

Key Timestamps:

[00:00:00] No Ads, No Hype, Just Courage

[00:02:00] Early Webinars & Showing Up Anyway

[00:03:30] If You Were a Local Shop…

[00:05:00] The Coaching Industry’s Elephant in the Room

[00:07:00] Don’t Buy the Scarcity Narrative

[00:09:00] Jo’s Family Story: Quiet Resilience

[00:12:30] Redefining Success + Constant Marketing Protocol

“You don’t have to be perfect to be trusted. You don’t need 10K followers to find clients. But you do need to commit to showing up.” -Jo Lott

This episode is for coaches who want to build a sustainable business that fits around their real life, not someone else’s version of success. Jo shares why “easy” isn’t always fulfilling, and how to create a rhythm that aligns with your values, your energy, and the season you’re in.

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I built a six figure business,

working school hours, term time only.

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No hype.

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No fake deadlines, no ads.

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Just consistency, clarity,

and a lot of quiet courage and

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commitment behind the scenes.

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And here's the truth

that nobody tells you.

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Success in coaching isn't about

flashy content or feeling like you

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know exactly what you are doing.

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It's about doing the work that no

one sees and doing it again tomorrow.

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Welcome back to Women

in the Coaching Arena.

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I am Jo Lott a business coach

and mentor to qualified coaches

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who want to grow a sustainable

business with honesty, not hype.

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I am here to pull back the curtain

and share what really works, so

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you can build a coaching business

that fits your life and values.

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So let's start here.

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The part that you don't see, which

is the early posts that get no

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likes and I'm desperate to delete.

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The webinars or workshops that

you have prepped for, and only

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three people have turned up.

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The times that you kept showing up

when it felt like no one was watching.

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That is not failure.

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That is the work, and it's exactly

what builds a business that lasts.

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It's so easy for my clients to perhaps

hold a webinar and feel like it was a

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failure because only six people showed up.

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My first webinar, I

had two people show up.

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So ever since that day, I've

always paid for a virtual assistant

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to come to the workshop with me

to at least engage and attend.

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Even though now I have 150 plus

live show up at that webinar.

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I still have that fear

from that first time.

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But imagine if I had never got the

courage and threw my toys out of the

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pram and said forget it, it doesn't

work, which is the sort of thing I

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hear from people all of the time and

it just doesn't work the first time.

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Like my first one, I had two show ups.

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My second one I might have

had six to 12 show up.

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My third one, I had 50 show up and

now years on I'm gaining 150 plus

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live show up on my webinars, but it's

taken a really long time to get there.

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So what I wanna start sharing more

is that business is a long game.

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Have you ever watched Dragons Den?

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If so, you will know that they go

through their first three years going.

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Year one, 200,000 loss.

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Year two, 150,000 loss.

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Year three 50,000 loss.

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Year four profit, 10,000.

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And the dragons are

nodding like, oh, great.

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It's starting to work now.

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No one's thinking This is shameful.

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This is embarrassing.

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And because that's what it

really takes to build a business.

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And we are so lucky that our

businesses are not product-based

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businesses where you do lose a

lot of money in those early days.

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We are lucky that generally we

don't really lose any money.

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You can start an online business

with next to Nothing investment.

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So we are so lucky, and the reality

is that it takes longer than we think.

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And it's not because you are doing

it wrong, it's because you are

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building a real business here.

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If you were a local shop, as I've

mentioned on this podcast before, a local

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shop has opened about five houses down

from me, and I am so desperate for them to

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succeed that I shop there all of the time.

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I want to support my

local community business.

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I know they have spent hundreds of

thousands on that property building it up.

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It was shut for 18 months while they

paid builders to get it all ready and

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they have had to buy all of this stock.

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So if they are making the extra effort

to get fresh baguettes in, to get

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fresh sausage rolls in, then I will

be shopping there and supporting them

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so they can continue to provide that

amazing service to our community.

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So just remember that you don't

have to knock on doors anymore.

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We have it so easy and you can make

this work with actual hard work.

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And listening back to Melissa's case

study episode I shared a few weeks ago.

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I love when she said.

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You've just got to put your

back into it, and that's

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exactly what you have got to do.

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It isn't easy, but it is much easier

when you are surrounded by people who

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will give you the support to do that.

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The inspiration to do that, the feedback

to do that, and you will gain so much

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courage from actually taking those steps.

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Okay, now let's talk about

the elephant in the room.

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So most of the big money you see in

coaching is coaches selling business

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coaching to other coaches, and I don't

mean coaches like you probably are

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leadership coaches, career coaches.

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It's generally all of these seven

figure business owners selling to

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other business coaches who are going

to just do and clone exactly what that

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business coach is telling them and gain

those same clients into their practice.

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But if you are a leadership coach, career

coach, wellbeing coach of some sort.

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The sort of methods they are teaching

might not suit who you are trying

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to attract into your business.

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You have to meet them in their world.

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You need to create messaging

that makes them stop scrolling,

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but not because it's loud.

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With my clients, that is

exactly what we work on.

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Building a business that reflects who

they are and giving them the clarity

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to speak to people who need the most

and not in a hyped up way that uses

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shameful marketing of like you are

missing a trick, et cetera, et cetera.

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Just helpful, amazing ways of helping

people feel seen, understood, helping them

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create insights, take steps forward, all

with value-based marketing that really

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does change lives in just your marketing.

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I know through this podcast, I have

changed many people's businesses

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and lives because I receive messages

all of the time telling me that.

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So that is the type of

marketing I want to do.

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Marketing that is actually a

part of my business that actually

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creates value and that doesn't

leave people in real scarcity.

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I listened to a podcast a couple of

weeks ago, and I must admit to feeling

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in real scarcity mindset ever since.

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It was very hyped up saying

the world is changing.

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You are no longer gonna be

able to sell to individuals.

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It was like, really black or

white thinking of no one's

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buying, no one's ever gonna buy.

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No one's got money.

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It was not true because I know

that through my own work, through

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my own client's business, it's

not true that no one is buying.

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There are plenty of people buying.

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Why otherwise would my leadership coach

client have 30 K months for example.

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Why would I, sign consistent

clients each month?

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Why would so many of my wonderful

new business owner case studies

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that you can hear on this podcast

sign clients in their first year

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of business if no one was buying.

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So I don't like that type of

marketing that puts a stop on your

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dreams because yes, it's hard.

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Yes, it takes commitment.

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It takes you as a person committing

to marketing your business, committing

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to mastering the skill of keeping

up to date with the world and

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all of the things we are doing.

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And yes, that's hard, but guess what?

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I do it even though I don't feel like

I'm the smartest person in the room,

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the most disciplined person in the room.

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I've been wanting to get fit for so

long, and all I need to do is commit

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to getting my kettlebell out for 10

minutes a day and I cannot do it.

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So all I'm saying is.

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If I can do this without having the

head space, the time, the freedom,

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like I've got kids that I run around

to every single club under the sun.

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I do every drop off, I do every pickup.

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I've got a lot of clients and I

still manage to keep up to date and

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try my best in running a business.

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Then all I know is that you can too.

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A story I don't share often because

I cry every time I share the story.

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And my clients will know that

because I do share as part of a

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Getting to Know You exercise in

my Business of coaching program.

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That, the reason I have such

strong willpower and belief that

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you and I can build businesses.

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It is because my parents built

their business from Absolute Zero.

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Came to London with no

qualifications, no money.

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They were from Ireland.

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So in those days they had signs on the

windows saying, no blacks, no Irish.

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So they weren't even welcome.

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And yet they built a business

and they showed up to it every

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single day for 30 plus years.

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Even though I have no idea how they

manage, because we lived in pubs

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in southwest London and there was

hardly ever anyone in, and I used to

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think, my gosh, they're having to pay

someone to be behind the bar, like

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while we have our dinner and stuff.

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And you know, there'd be a two

or three guys sitting in the bar.

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And pretty much every single

weeknight was like that.

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So it was all banking on having a

great Saturday night, which fortunately

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they did have most of the time.

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But the amount of times I used to say

to my dad, shall I go out leafleting?

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There's loads of lovely

houses around here.

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Maybe they just need to know we exist.

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I'm so grateful that he retired

as things were becoming so, so

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hard for publicans to get by.

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So if you are thinking it's hard

to build a coaching business,

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just know that it's hard to build

any business, but it's possible.

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And if they can do it with no

qualifications, no money, no family

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nearby, then you can do it too.

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So let's redefine success right now.

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So for me, success is really

freedom of my calendar.

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It is always being able to do

the school pickup without panic.

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It's voice noting my clients from my

favorite health club, so I actually get to

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have one or two days where I exercise each

week and work from a beautiful location.

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It's not living by someone else's idea of

ambition, but it took time to get here.

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I had to walk away from my career

and executive coaching business

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that I'd worked so hard to build.

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It was a really hard decision at the time

when I started my business of coaching

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program on the side of my career and

executive coaching business, and I was

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making the same mistake that I see so

many of my clients make by trying not to

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make a decision on whether I retain my

career coaching business, which was doing

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well at the time, or whether I fully step

into promoting my business of coaching

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program, change my website to very clear

entrepreneurship and go all in on what

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I was super passionate about, which

is people building their own business.

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And I don't say that easily.

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I do think it's actually easier

to work for other people.

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I now look back on my whole career when my

family was so desperate for me to always

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have a really stable job that I stayed in

pretty much two employers for my entire

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20 years of work because my dad was so

obsessed by me gaining holiday time,

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pension and when I started my first job,

he said, you've got a job for life there.

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And I took it literally.

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I genuinely intended to stay there

till I was 60 or god knows what age

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it is now and retire because, I,

as my husband now tells me, was on

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a gravy train with biscuit wheels.

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I've never heard of the saying before,

but in other words, I had it easy.

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But easy is not always the best

because easy can feel exhausting.

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Being bored, being unfulfilled, not

realizing your potential is exhausting.

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It's a bit like when you sit around

all day at home, you just feel more

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tired than when you go out for the day.

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And yes, you are kind of exhausted,

but you are also exhilarated.

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So leaving felt like a huge

risk, but it gave me space.

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It gave me the push to have to show

up, to get to know myself, to have to

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figure out how I could help others.

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To be able to focus, to be able to

commit and a way of working that

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felt aligned with my values, which

my employment definitely wasn't.

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So if you are in the messy middle,

I want you to know that you don't

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have to be perfect to be trusted.

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You don't need 10 K followers

to find paying clients.

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You don't need to push all of the time,

but you do need to keep showing up and

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commit to yourself and your business.

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I call it with my clients, their

constant marketing protocol, which

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sounds pretty exhausting with the word

constant, but what I mean by that is

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I want my clients to create a business

where they say it's just what I do.

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It no longer drains them of energy

thinking about posting on LinkedIn.

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It's just something that they do.

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So that's what I mean when I talk

about your constant marketing protocol.

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What are you committing to do constantly?

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For me, that is showing up

on this podcast once a week.

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It's showing up on LinkedIn

every weekday, Monday to Friday.

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It is emailing my list once a week every

Thursday, and it's holding a few online

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workshops or in-person workshops each

year so people get that opportunity

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to take a no risk step towards me

and figure out if they do want to

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work closer together in my program.

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So thank you for listening

to today's episode.

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If this landed with you, do send me

a message on LinkedIn as Joanna Lott

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or Instagram as @joannalottcoaching,

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episode of Women in the Coaching Arena.

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Remember to trust yourself, believe

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who keeps on watering the seed.

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Get into the arena dare, greatly and try.

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About the Podcast

Women in The Coaching Arena
Helping compassionate coaches to grow their coaching businesses with practical and emotional tools so that more brilliant coaches build brilliant coaching businesses
Are you a coach who's passionate about making a difference and building a thriving coaching business? Join Joanna Lott, a business mentor and ICF certified coach, as she shares practical and emotional tools to help you succeed in the coaching arena.

In each weekly Thursday episode of The Women in the Coaching Arena Podcast, Joanna provides valuable insights and actionable advice on various topics, such as business strategy, marketing, mindset, energy and entrepreneurship. Whether you're just starting or have years of experience, this podcast is for you.

You have a gift that needs to be shared and Joanna is here to help you do it.

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Joanna Lott

Joanna Lott helps coaches stand out and get clients - with honesty not hype.

She has 20 years’ experience of working within HR and Governance in trade unions and financial services.

After qualifying as an ICF Executive Coach she set about learning everything she could about business, sales and marketing and quickly built a profitable career and executive coaching business around her young family.

Other coaches started asking her how she did it, so she’s supported 35 coaches in the last year alone to help them to build their business and get clients so they can make a living doing work they love.